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Syrphinae ID

 
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peterbolson



Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Syrphinae ID Reply with quote

Hi
I've only just got into hoverflies & am finding them fascinating. So far I've been using Gilbert's handbook & the internet but I obviously now need Stubbs & Falk. It could take ages to arrive with the present postal strike so I thought I'd post a couple of photos of one from my garden in Cumbria which is puzzling me. Apologies if I haven't captured the relevant bits - it's only after I started reading about them that I realised which parts were important Smile
I wondered about Eupeodes latifasciatus but Epistrophe nitidicollis has also been suggested to me.
Many thanks
Peter
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Ian Wynne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Syrphus. Though I wouldn't like to go further from a photo.
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conopid



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Ian. Both have dull, rather than shiny thoraxes, indicating Syrphus.
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Roger K.A. Morris



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Syrphus ID Reply with quote

This one looks like Syrphus vitripennis or S. torvus - cannot go further

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peterbolson



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all who replied. I've got my copy of S&F now and I can see the problems of trying to identify from photos or live specimens. It appears as though one has often to be satisfied with identifying the genus. It's obviously going to be a long learning process Smile
Peter
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Roger K.A. Morris



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answer is to retain specimens - that is the only way that many species can be identified

I'm afraid picture book ID is not possible with many syrphidae

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Roger
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